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Post subject: Heat mats under glass enclosure
Posted: Mar 27, 2008 - 08:05 AM
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| Why is it a better idea to put a heat mat under the enclosure if it is glass? |
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Post subject: RE: Heat mats under glass enclosure
Posted: Mar 27, 2008 - 03:18 PM
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| Well most reptiles that need under tank heaters, require belly heat so it's ideal to put the heat mat under the tank. The only time you usually put the heat mat on the side is if the bottom is plastic, or the reptiles are burrowing. |
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Post subject: RE: Heat mats under glass enclosure
Posted: Mar 27, 2008 - 03:31 PM
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The undertank heat gives the reptiles a much closer source of heat. Though light bulbs emit heat, reptiles need warmth from underneath them as well to aid in digestion. Undertank heaters are also good for night-time when the lights are out and the reptiles still need some warmth  |
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Post subject: RE: Heat mats under glass enclosure
Posted: Mar 27, 2008 - 05:31 PM
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| yeah i have my heater in the inside but im saying why is it better to have it on the outside if its glass? |
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Post subject: RE: Heat mats under glass enclosure
Posted: Mar 27, 2008 - 06:29 PM
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| oh if its on the inside you run the risk of the animal touching the heat pad and getting burnt... or water/moisture hitting it and causing it to short circuit and shock your animal or worse start a fire. Never put an undertank heater inside the tank. Thats why they are called undertank heaters |
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Post subject: RE: Heat mats under glass enclosure
Posted: Mar 27, 2008 - 06:33 PM
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| oh poop lol ive got my other ones mat in the enclosure but he has a wood viv |
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Post subject: RE: Heat mats under glass enclosure
Posted: Mar 27, 2008 - 06:35 PM
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| i like the way they change my swear word to poop for me:) |
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Post subject: RE: Heat mats under glass enclosure
Posted: Mar 28, 2008 - 04:05 AM
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Thats not technically true Coexist... you can very safely put uth in vivs so long as certain conditions are met. Knowing Deydey keeps leos there is nothing really wrong with keeping your uth in the viv... wooden vivs are a great example. So long as it is on a thermostat and there is a suitable substrate the burn issue is redundant. The chances of shorting a heat mat with water is virtually nonexistent esp within a leo set up.
However, most people who have glass put them on the outside because it is easier. It also means fewer cables coming out the top of the tank for geckos to climb up (I had a leo that could escape by climbing up the thermostat and thermometer cabling, a third thick cable would have made it even easier for her). It also makes it easier to mess about with the mat should you need to rather than having to take everything out the tank.
There is nothing wrong with using a uth inside a viv though in this situation. |
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Post subject: RE: Heat mats under glass enclosure
Posted: Mar 28, 2008 - 08:11 AM
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| ah really? i never learned it that way. I guess used with a good thermostat nothing terrible could happen. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Heat mats under glass enclosure
Posted: Mar 28, 2008 - 01:46 PM
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| CoexistExotics wrote: | | ah really? i never learned it that way. I guess used with a good thermostat nothing terrible could happen. |
This is sometimes true, but remember to test the temps above the mat every month to make sure that there isn't anything going wrong.
I had a green iguaua as a kid (well my parents took care of him) but something went bad with a mat we bought for him (it was only a few months old) and it had a thermostat on it and still got far too hot and gave him thermal burns. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Heat mats under glass enclosure
Posted: Mar 28, 2008 - 08:14 PM
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aww too bad Tari but i have had my uth on the bottom of the tank and the glass cracked obviously because of getting to hot but i have solved that problem so nor worries  |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Heat mats under glass enclosure
Posted: Mar 29, 2008 - 05:32 AM
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jesus thats quite bad  I mean, i've felt mine and they don't even seem hot just warm? |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Heat mats under glass enclosure
Posted: Mar 29, 2008 - 03:59 PM
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I wouldn't worry about cracking your viv deydey. If you have a UTH that is in good condition, is being controlled and monitored you shouldn't have any problems with it. Another reason Noah may have had those problems could have been from a tank in poor condition, or not leaving some space under the tank for ventilation.
I guess what I'm saying is that it can and does happen, it just isn't very likely. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Heat mats under glass enclosure
Posted: Apr 13, 2008 - 06:08 PM
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| i wouldent put it under a glass tank eventuly the glass will melt and your better to use a heat cable |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Heat mats under glass enclosure
Posted: Apr 13, 2008 - 07:18 PM
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| nitroRcs_reptiles wrote: | | i wouldent put it under a glass tank eventuly the glass will melt and your better to use a heat cable |
Nitro... do you have any idea what temperature glass melts?
above 1400*C
thats 2,552*F.
You really need to think about what you are saying before you type it. Under Tank Heaters are made to be attached to the glass, however like has been stated when proper care is taken they can be used inside of a wooden enclosure. |
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